economy. >> dave spence. >> i think it sounds great in concept, but who'll pay for? with 16 children dollars and at a national basis and barely a meter in a a daily basis. we are an emergency, rainy day fund. i think it sounds great, sure does. but who's going to pay for? i don't think the taxpayers want to pay 1 dollar for it. dilemma has three governors in prison for $15 billion deficit. if they want to pay, that's the problem. misery needs to make the tough decisions. should they be put in the mix of whether we've reduced 70 or high-speed rail? is probably in the mix, but i don't think is before us now. i want to see what the load factors to be. that's my world. i want to see supply and demand. if the demand there? will supply. if not, we're not in a position to build it and they will come. we are just not there. >> jim higgins. >> okay, well i am not a transportation expert and i don't think these guys are either. actually i graduated from school as a civil engineer, but they work five yea